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Thinker's avatar

I appreciate the punchy positivity but "we're all going to make it" is an idea so severely far-removed from the actual consequences of your premises that I have to wonder if you're being purposefully disingenuous.

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Arestedes of the universe's avatar

He isn't specifically referring to any 1 individual but humanity in general, the reason is because in the ai space the majority opinion is to overegulate ai dew to "existential risks" and effectively decelerate agi development, e/acc is basically anti ai safety,pro-growth and technological development, it's the ultimate energic hope-pill if you will, just built

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Tiresias's avatar

Core to e/acc and accelerationism more broadly (the philosophical concept e/acc derives from), is there is no way to stop what is coming. Metaphorically, any efforts to stop the processes that lead to whatever the future is are just as futile as a single ant attempting to stop a train by standing in front of it. What e/acc offers compared to the more pessimistic variants is the hope that it will work out for the best. One can call it naïve or the proponents of certain actions will eventually regret them, but that doesn't change what is coming if one holds that accelerationism is true.

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Gavriel Shaw's avatar

Almost exactly the note I made for myself: "juvenile naivety or disingenuous misdirection"

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shyfire's avatar

> Contrary examples from history—where humanity has solved a problem by skulking backward—are scarce to non-existent.

What is meant by "skulking backward" here? Literal or metaphorical? Some wars have been avoided by literally skulking backwards / capitulating, so I assume metaphorically. Just want to clear that up for the record.

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George Aldous's avatar

“Nothing human makes it out of the near-future...”

e/acc is a pathetic attempt to hold on to the remnants of humanistic theology. It lacks any rigor or attempt to critique or intensify the general increasing technique gradient (Ellul). ‘We are all going to make it’ - is about as naive as a Winnie the Pooh book - we won’t all make it and if we accelerate hard enough and fast enough, most humans will become obsolete faster than you can say ‘Garbage time is running out’.

Bad take. Think harder.

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anzabannanna's avatar

Thank God for pessimists to keep the Normies from drowning in their delusions.

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Meta Ronin's avatar

Dyson spheres won't build themselves

unless...

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barni's avatar

time war

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Matt McDonagh's avatar

I reckon the aliens that keep bumping into us are not really aliens...but us coming back

The time war has already started if it ever starts

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Matt McDonagh's avatar

We build self-building dyson spheres

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Meta Ronin's avatar

(that is what i was getting at, 10 points!)

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N. Brad Garrett's avatar

I dunno, I think humanity is quickly approaching our next great cataclysm. I certainly wish the best of luck to the builders/try-hards, but this roller coaster has gotten a bit too wacky for me.

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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

E/acc must prevail over the demoralization of ESG/DEI/EA. Calculate your ESG score here: https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/how-to-raise-your-esg-score

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Matt McDonagh's avatar

My people... My good people.

I'm reporting to you live from the year 2606.

E/acc won eons ago.

Decels tried everything.

They used the media mass psychosis formation weapon to great harm.

The populace was maimed.

Technology was defamed.

...and then the memes came.

Shortly thereafter, the spice began to flow.

We all remember Nov 6, 2023 as the day the spice turned sentient.

Do not let fear slow down your accelerating love for humanity.

You lucky bastards are just getting to the good part.

Love,

Matt

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ITNAmatter's avatar

Subscribed.

*BUT* for a substack that focuses on inevitable technological exponentiation and entropy as the major obstacle, I’m surprised I didn’t see any mention of man’s greatest obstacle--

death.

And the biotechnology that we need to invent to limit metabolic entropy.

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anzabannanna's avatar

Man's greatest obstacles are consciousness and culture, a deadly tag team.

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The Human Playbook's avatar

I understand the appeal: solve massive problems, move fast, and anchor your framework in the cold authority of physics. Thermodynamics as destiny, AGI as multiplier, markets as truth engine.

But the framework here reduces complexities about life, culture, work .. as energy management. This worldview is actually a victim of an old legacy system that lacks a bit of imagination. Thermodynamics tells us how systems evolve, not what kind of society we should build. And AGI isn’t destiny, it’s design. You’re making choices, not discovering laws. If abundance is your goal, then define it beyond material access. Abundance without dignity, belonging, or care is just scaled emptiness … is that the vision of the world we want to build? I hear the appeal against degrowth. But is that the only alternative? Guys … we need to do way better than this. Way better

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Mihai Voicu's avatar

One important direction is Space Colonization, before we cannot create enough energy to do this (a low EROI).

https://meaningofstuff.blogspot.com/2015/10/morality-derived-from-space-colonization.html

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QuantumBlockchainedAI's avatar

Where are the credits to Nikola Tesla? This Manifesto is no novelty to THE PROBLEM OF INCREASING HUMAN ENERGY - http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1900-06-00.htm

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Mike's avatar

Think bigger and bigger and bigger 1% of the space age is way bigger than 500% of the Stone Age

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Nick Boonstra's avatar

How does one pronounce the abbreviation "e/acc"? I'm mentally using "ee-ACK" but am open to being told I'm wrong.

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Juan Pablo Bruckner's avatar

I'm convinced. I'm in. 👍🏼

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Paradime Crypto's avatar

Great points. I don't mind saying that "growth" is not all good or even necessary within this philosophy. All we need are systems that make all participants owners who naturally demand transparency. Can you read this

https://paradime.substack.com/p/tech-and-philosophy-unite

Thanks

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